They say:
"... it would be inappropriate to make any change without clear evidence of a direct issue"
However, the threat is real:
- "Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government"
- Executive Order, January 20th 2025 - French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found
- The Guardian, March 19th 2025
The IETF Administration LLC has decided to continue to hold meetings in the US, in spite of significant threats to the safety of the community in traveling there. As an Internet community we strive to include everyone. Holding a meeting in the US is incompatible with our values. We call on the IETF community to refuse to travel to the 127th IETF meeting, to be held in San Francisco.
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Who cannot travel to the US
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Who will refuse to attend in solidarity
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Who otherwise support this initiative
If you are unable to travel to the US, or wish to voice your support for this boycott, fill in the form below - your signature can be anonymous.
The US is dangerous
For many, the US was already a country for which it was not safe to travel to. But now, it is an actively hostile state to almost anyone travelling there.
'Surely this won't affect me; I'm white, male, and European?' Think again. Here are the examples we know about of people being detained at the US border, and put into camps:
- A French scientist was deported for holding views critical of the Trump administration. Source: The Guardian.
- A Welsh backpacker was detained for 19 days. Source: BBC News.
- A Canadian actor was detained for 2 weeks. Source: The Guardian.
- A German engineer with permanent residency in the US (Green Card) is currently being detained. Source: The Guardian.
- Two German tourists were held for two weeks and nearly two months, respectively. Source: Deutsche Welle.
There are undoubtedly more cases we do not know about. These people are being held in utterly inhumane conditions, often without access to appropriate medical care, legal representation, food, nor even a bed. Some have been tortured.
Beyond problems at the border, the current Secretary for Health and Human Services - Robert F. Kennedy Jr. -
has said that he will send those with ADHD to camps. Source:
Futurism.
Even if attendees get through the border, their safety during the meeting cannot be guaranteed.
'We can't just cancel meeting!'
We can, and we should.
RFC 8718 sets the criteria for the selection of a meeting venue for the IETF meetings. Amongst the core values listed is that of inclusiveness. Specifically, the IETF should:
Avoid meeting in countries with laws that effectively exclude people on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, national origin, citizenship, or gender identity.
Additionally, RFC 9137 sets the conditions on cancelling/relocating IETF meetings. Amongst examples of situations that should trigger a meeting cancellation are:
- War, civil unrest, or a public health crisis could make a meeting unsafe and/or result in widespread national or corporate travel bans.
- Changes in visa policies or other unexpected governmental restrictions might make the venue inaccessible to numerous attendees.
Voice your support
Those who wish to be public
Unable to travel
Q Misell
Max-Planck Institut für Informatik
J. Heimerl-Ombeck
Annika Schramm
Helle
Alexandra Miller
Martine Lenders
Andrew Alston
Maria Matejka
CZ.NIC | BIRD
Ellie Schieder
PKI Quest
Matthias Bussonnier
Thea Barbette
Researcher at ICTEAM
Hristo Bogdanov
Nadežda von Reitzenstein Čerpnjak
Peter Körner
Seibert Group GmbH
Adrian Farrel
Old Dog Consulting
Brooklyn Zelenka
UCAN
Refusing to attend
Tobias Fiebig
MPI-INF
David 'equinox' Lamparter
NetDEF / FRRouting
Marc Haber
incluesion, Freelance IT Insultant
Tommy Jensen
Microsoft
Bryce A. Lynch
Peter van Dijk
Lyndon Nerenberg
Curtis King
Martin Winter
NetDEF
John Todd
Christian Amsüss
Arvid Picciani
Jasper den Hertog
NLnet Labs
Ondřej Surý
ISC
Tobias Herkula
Robin Berjon
Tim McSweeney
IETF
Mario Nemec
Stalwart Labs
Shane Kerr
Mike Ounsworth
Vicky Risk
Supporters
leo vriska
Jeremy Kescher
Sam Schmitt
Delan Azabani
Igalia
Sophie L
Ondřej Pokorný
Freelance Technology Consultant
Michael Rockhold
Sabrina
None, but I have ADHD
maya Boeckh
bronsen
Institut für angewandte Futuristik
Annika Hannig
Alice BGP Looking Glass / Freelance Developer
Hanno Wagner
Clément Gillard
Dorothea Salo
Yureka Lilian
Wobcom
Ian Jackson
Debian Project; Tor Project; IETF protocol implementor; Rust community
Colin Macleod
Ignas Kiela
+merlan #flirora
Alex Ball
Ingvar Mattsson
Ellen Emilia Anna Zscheile
Mannat Kaur
Kit Sylvester
Simon Pasquier
Felix
Patrick Cernko
Max Planck Institute for Software System
Hugo Slabbert
Florian Weber
Technische Universität Dresden
Athena Martin
Andres Correa Casablanca
Kindspells Labs
Anže Jenšterle
Szymon Sokół
AGH University of Kraków
Alex Videcoq
university of Rennes
Caitríona O'Reilly
Maurice Meyer
Tom L
Craig Askings
Jérôme Carretero
ExMakhina
Colin Cogle
vuillard
Ruby Iris Juric
Thomas Guyot-Sionnest
Michał Górny
Gentoo Linux
Jack Meouff
Student
kimapr
Rohan Nishant
Sharon Rosner
Noteflakes
Audun Vaaler
Robb Doering
Doering Thinking Machines
Yunchuan "Winslow" Hu
University of British Columbia
Koosha Hosseiny
Melissa Pilgrim
Donno Magender
Rich Schumacher
Fredrik Björeman
International software podcaster
Chandler Carruth
Johannes Bauer
Baden-Württemberg Cooperative State University
Elia Bieri
Muhammed I
Amaya Rodrigo
Just an it person (debian Linux volunteer)
Melinda Shore
retired (former IAB, former IRSG, former WG chair, document author)
Morgan Gangwere
Owen Anderson
J. Dyer
Stephan K.
Josh Enders
<script>alert("oops!")</script>
Scott Maxwell
Vincent van Adrighem
Alexander Utter
Luka Prebil Grintal
David Wagner
Matt Lewis
Jeff Allen
Self
Michael Shaw
Timwi
Beau Gunderson
Stephan Mucha
Joel Hansell
Wytze van der Raay
former board member of NLnet Labs
Emil Rosendahl
Drew DeVault
Memmie Lenglet
Eden Uhde
AS205789
Albin Eldstål-Ahrens
J Hannah
Terence Eden
Edward Dore
Freethought Group Limited
Bart Riepe
Simon Panay
French National Centre for Scientific Research
Michael Gale
Dan Q
Ryan Castellucci
(it is not safe for me to travel to the US)
Henrik Kramselund
Zencurity Aps AS57860
Nils Renaud
Gwendolyn Kostial
Dominic Sayers
Tomáš Grus
Ignacio Torres Masdeu
Platform engineer at SUSE ; AS206268
Ivan Herman
Fred Ellena
Woody Guthrie
Guillaume Fillon
Antonino Catinello
Mia Rose Winter
Julie Humberg
Manuel Gwosdz
Michał Drzewiecki
Janis König
Security Researcher at intcube GmbH
Dan Benton
Dogsbody Technology / Open Source Maintainer
Adrien Kunysz
Neil Carpenter
Jacob Elder
Björne Söderberg Laanemäe
Malcolm Scott
University of Cambridge; former IETF contributor
Norman Wilson
Chris Gerhard
Daniel Wagner
Genevieve Mendoza
James Hawley
Eleanor Clifford
Imperial College London / University of Cambridge
Matteo Joliveau
Zzyzx Wolfe
TJ Horner
Open Source Maintainer
Jesper E. Siig
Rhys Tedstone
Doug Freed
Mikael Albertsson
Samuel Eduardo Aleman Espinoza
HF
sysadmin
Urban Suhadolnik
TU Graz